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Being someone who read Under The Red Hood and came out with the firm belief that, for Jason, it's not about killing Joker, it's about Jason wanting proof Batman would choose him over the Joker (bc shelia chose the joker). Makes seeing any other media where it's all about just wanting the Joker dead is a teeny bit frustrating. to be honest
Jason could've killed the Joker himself, really, really easily. Jason kidnaps the Joker before the confrontation. I can't open my comic for a reference right now, but it felt like he had the Joker for quite a bit before the confrontation. He had him. He beat him up with a crowbar. He had every single opportunity to kill the Joker himself, but he didn't because that wasn't his goal. Make no mistake, he did plan for the Joker to be dead by the end of it, but do you see what im trying to say here
Edit: If I knew this post was gonna get 1000+ notes I would've tried to word it better or something, this was a rant I made on the way to the grocery store 😭
It's not about making Batman kill either. When Batman says he won't kill, Jason adjusts and goes, 'Let ME kill the Joker or kill me to stop me' instead. The test is all about Batman choosing him. The whole final confrontation is Jason's first death again. The parent, The Joker, and the explosives. It even ends with Jason unable to move as a bomb goes off right next to him again because the parent didn't choose Jason. And instead tried finding an option that'd benefit them and (consequencely) letting the Joker walk, again, lol, lmao <-in agony
#the final confrontation was basically his first death again#and YES he Does want the Joker dead#and it would've been really really nice if Batman was the one who did it#but when batman made it clear he wouldn't kill the joker. Jason easily switched to saying “LET me kill the joker” to accommodate#because he Wanted batman to pass his test#he gave a test to dick too. and technically tim but it wasnt the family test it was a different one so it doesnt rly count#AFTER utrh and the reveal and the batarang you can go hog wild about it. i care less about it then#granted i do believe they make jason more scared of the joker after it at some point#i guess because hes a bit too willing to kill the joker and ive heard jason wasnt meant to live after utrh#my watsonian explain for that is he was so fixated on his plan he cpuld override his fear. or maybe the pit. either work#i prefer the fixation bc i dont like the explanation that the pit was the /only/ reason he could get all plan together and done#BUT THATS UNRELATED!!!#dc stop putting the joker in jason stories im begging you please please please. lock him in a vault for the next 20 years or something#it Cpuld be good and i understand. but also. after so long of people that dont know or go for jasons need for family and parents#that love him and he can trust#the joker starts to feel like?? hm. words. a cop out? oh haha its that guy that killed him woagh hes here#i bet you dont even know that jaybin got beat until unconsciousness by an angry mob#while asking batman to save him only for batman to have to walk away#anwya. where was i going with this#i think i got off topic#jason todd#dc comics#batman#ADDED AN EDIT. SORRY. this post has been haunting me it keeps me awake. what if people misunderstand#they cant read my tags where i ramble more depth. thisbis the only option#EDIT EDIT: hiii#removed the sentence abt jason having the joker for several days bc i misremembered some things#go read its-your-mind 's addition instead also#ok no more i wont edit this post anymore i promise
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DC doodles for funzies
#my art#dc comics#i haven’t read a single comic yet pls don’t come after my head🙏#I just saw some fanart on pinterest and it spiraled from there#BUT if you have any recommendations on where to start#please do!!#I’ll gladly accept them!!#batman#batfam#dick grayson#nightwing#damian wayne#robin#starfire#koriand'r#littol redesign for my beautiful princess in third pic💚😍#and her boyfriend too I guess…#bruce wayne#jason todd#tim drake#stephanie brown#duke thomas#cassandra cain#don’t ask me ANYTHING about the second pic#I just thought I’d be cool#like aesthetically#sorry in advance to whoever speaks japanese
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Jason being the easiest kid is super funny. Bruce looking at Jason and remembering Dick at 18: “we can work through this. He’ll come around if I don’t give up on.”
Bruce, watching over a freshly street-snatched Jason: Why is he so calm
Having Dick as the rambunctious, feral, and unhinged first child must've given him SO much whiplash once Jason entered the picture. Lil guy just vibed in his own world. Just reading books and doing schoolwork. Baby Jason hurt nobody.
Bruce will just be going over the ground rules of the manor, remembering all the chaos Dick brought upon the household.
Bruce: No swinging from the chandelier.
Jason: ?? I wasn't planning to?
Bruce: No murder.
Jason: What? That never even crossed my mind-
Bruce: And please, for the love of God, don't sneak out and try to beat up the nearest criminal on our block
Jason:
Jason: WHO is responsible for these rules being created??
Bruce will just come home from a long day of work. He's tired and just wants a nice, quiet evening, but he's subconsciously psyching himself up to prepare himself for the chaos he'll witness once he enters the manor
but then Jason's just quietly doing his own thing, maybe even helping Alfred with some chores, reading, or just lounging about in the manor. In general, just causing no trouble and Bruce just turns to Alfred, all worried like, "Is he sick? I don't think children are supposed to behave this way."
#Bruce putting 'No chandeliar swinging' before 'No murder' speaks volumes of the battles he's faced#baby jay was just a lil guy :')#Bruce having a wholesome relationship with jason from the very start: I didnt know this was possible#Bruce and robin!jason were so soft like please read the 80s comics they were SO cute fnksjvkosk#Dick visiting for the very first time since he left home: Why the FUCK is it so peaceful here#Dick not being angry about Jason becoming robin but instead being angry that his new brother isnt driving Bruce up the wall:#'are you even WORTHY of being my successor?? WHERE is your drive?'#jason todd#bruce wayne#batman#red hood#robin!jason#dick grayson#nightwing#batfam#batdad#batfamily#batkids#incorrect quotes#dc#crack#fanatical asks#fanatical posting#sidenote anon i am so sorry for not answering this earlier i always forget to check my asks ;-;
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danyal al ghul memes because i don't think i've done those yet for this au.
(the jason one is in reference to the fanon headcanon/au that Jason and Damian potentially knew each other and interacted while jason was in the league. I've thought about it before in context of this au, but haven't thought about it enough to feel inspired or motivated to make a post exploring the idea)
(diablito means, as you can guess, 'little devil'. while i'm neutral to latino jason, i think the nickname is cute as fuck and was danny's main nickname from Jason. i don't wanna touch that timeline so im not gonna decide how old they were when Jason was there.)
Skulker: i am the ghost zone's greatest hunter! i capture and hunt creatures both rare and dangerous. Danyal: a poacher?? you're a poacher?? you poach animals??Skulker:...i sense i've made a mistake of some kind.
anyways that was the day that Skulker cemented himself as Danny's no.1 opp, and still remains there to this day even if he and Vlad are both viciously fighting for second. Out of everyone in the the AP rogues gallery, Skulker will be the first to be thrown under the bus in terms of 'o shit here comes phantom fucking RUN'.
#dpxdc#dp x dc#danny fenton is not the ghost king#dp x dc crossover#dpxdc crossover#danyal al ghul au#dpxdc memes#danyal al ghul#dpdc#truly the epitome of “i dont faster than the bear i just need to be faster than YOU”#regardless of when Jason was with the league he *does* know that Danny loved Damian. don't ask me about the timeline because it'll be#*messsyyyy* and i've seen plenty of aus where jason was there while Damian as an infant so i can totally believe this could happen i just#need to do the mental gymnastics for it. not even. baby im faceplanting right into the mat and not getting up#the last meme is a tiktok sound that i found and thought was hilarious. and would also ABSOLUTELY be a story danyal would tell the#family after reuniting and developing a bond with them. damian has no recollection of this but is embarrassed nonetheless#danny spat that story out when he over heard damian claiming he doesn't have any embarrassing stories from the league. danny beat jason#to the punch and in the most deadpan voice said 'i remember you walking into my room. as a toddler. in nothing but a diaper. and picking#a marble up off the floor and holding it out. like the skull of yorick. before putting it as far down your throat as possible. i had to#stick my entire arm down your esophagus to pull it out. and save your life' before walking away#i got the ages wrong in the last image so just assume that danny recently turned seven and damian is like#18 months old#about a year and a half.
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things in DC canon i’ll literally never get over
1. dick finds out batman replaced him as robin (without asking him) from the NEWSPAPER and simultaneously finds out bruce adopted a new kid without telling him (to make things worse: bruce didn’t even adopt dick)
2. dick finds out jason died from the newspaper (AGAIN? REALLY BRUCE?) and bruce had the fucking funeral WITHOUT HIM while he was still in space
#i’m only like 80% sure these are fully canon btw#correct me if i'm wrong#dc comics#bruce wayne#dick grayson#jason todd#robin!jason#batman#batman comics#nightwing#batman and robin#ok yes ik there’s a reason bruce didn’t adopt dick#aka he didn’t want to replace dick’s father#but imagine being a teenager and your foster dad adopts a kid without even telling you#and then giving him YOUR name without asking#like no one would feel great about that#i will never forgive bruce for not telling dick jason died / having the funeral without him#though i do love some yummy angst#where hood!jason yells at dick for not even being at the funeral#and dicks like ‘i was still in fucking space!’#like yes bruce was grieving but BRO thats ur other son come on
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Ghostly Host AU
So! Ghosts need a physical Anchor in the living world, or they are liable to fall apart and fade away if they stay for too long.
In Amity Park, this usually isn't too much of a problem. Sure most Ghosts can't stay for a week without a Host, but the ambient Ecto-Levels in Amity Park are enough that they can stay for a few days or so at a time with little worry.
This changes however, during Reign Storm.
When Pariah Dark awakens, Tens of Thousands of Ghosts use the Fenton Portal to escape the Rule of Pariah Dark, running away into the Human Realm.
If Amity Park had stayed where it was, this would have been fine. They could have stayed in the Living Realm for a few days, and maybe the Weaker ones would need to find a temporary Host, but that was fine since Amity was filled with thousands of Liminals.
Unfortunately, Pariah Darks first move was to suck Amity Park into the Ghost Zone, alongside all of the Ecto-Energy that had accumulated there.
Now left trapped in the Living Realm with no way back to the Zone, thousands of Ghosts suddenly needed Hosts or they would start dying off by the Hundreds. In a Panic, they spread out across the Planet in search of viable Hosts.
Any normal Person wouldn't do, they needed a Living Being that could actually handle their Power, or someone who matched their Soul. Preferably both. Liminals were the best since they had a durable Body and a Malleable Soul, so any Ghost could use any of them as a Host.
But outside of Amity Liminals were very rare, and finding someone who matched their Soul was time-consuming and hard. Thankfully, in recent years the population of Aliens, Metahumans, Enhanced Soldiers, and even extra durable baseline Humans had spiked across the world.
All across the planet, People suddenly found themselves stuck with a new Passenger in their Bodies.
Those new passengers thankfully weren't malicious, for the most part, but it was still annoying. The only good thing was that they now had new Powers, which neat.
They could summon the Ghosts in their Body outwardly, and then command the Ghost to use their Powers in whatever way they wanted. Only other Hosts could see another person's Ghost, which meant they looked very awkward to normal people when they fought. Generally, Hosts seemed to act more strangely after getting a Ghost, as if they lost a few of their Inhibitions.
Why did they feel the sudden need to strike a flamboyant Pose? Or over dramatically scream?
#Dpxdc#Dp x dc#Dcxdp#Dc x dp#Danny Phantom#Dc#Dcu#Host AU#Ghostly Host AU#Tens of Thousands of Ghosts were suddenly released onto the world in desperate need of Host Anchors to survive#Not all of them survived long enough to find one#The Ghosts basically act as Stands#That's basically the main reason I made this#I wanted to make a Jojo's reference#The Ghosts mostly end up in Hosts that suit them the most#Spectra ended up with Hugo Strange#Skulker ended up with Deathstroke#Ember ended up with Black Canary#Johnny and Kitty actually got seperate#Kitty was stuck in the Ghost Zone when it all happened while Johnny was stuck in the Human World#Johnny ended up with Jason Todd#Kitty asked for help in finding him and ended up bonding with Jazz again so they can search#You can see where thats going#Danny is his own Host as a Halfa so he is fine#Sam becomes the unwilling Host of Undergrowth#Tucker becomes Host of his own Past Lives somehow#Who would end up with Superman? He would be a sought after Host by virtue of his fame#You know what would be funny?#Box Ghost ends up with Superman#Lunch Lady ends up with Lois Lane cause for some reason she is a good enough Host
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My drug of choice? Any of the bats/birds saying “help” at a normal volume and their designated super is suddenly there
Mmmmmm
#batman#superbat#Superman#batfam#this could be either romantic or platonic I don’t care#it’s about asking for help and someone being there#hmmm maybe I should show my therapist my ao3 history#there’s a pattern…isn’t there#kon el#tim drake#damian wayne#jon kent#uhh do Jason and dicks supers do that? unsure I think bizzaro can right#and then you get the flip side where the bats are like hmm to repay you I will stalk your every movement yes perfect
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If you are still taking requests, may I please inquire if I could have a drawing of Jason and Tim working together as a team, please?
this probably isnt exactly what you had in mind, but i think that red robin and batboy from that one death in the family movie ending are so precious
the cowl in question:
bonus:
#sart#jason todd#dc#tim drake#asks#the fact that one of the few good endings is the one where tim shows up ....#gotham still needs him even if it doesnt need a new robin#(i cant remember if they baby damian ending was a good ending or not)#i dont think i've ever drawn jason this baby before lol#im sort of taking requests in that you're probs best off waiting for when i specifically put out a call but if you send one in#and you're polite (like this anon <3) and i get inspired i might draw something#trying to speed run an art rut rn sdadfgdfgdgad i should probably just take a break but i wanna draw TT-TT
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Why is it always ‘Jason tried to kill Tim at titans tower’ and never ‘Jason tried to kill Tim in battle for the cowl’?
now that you mention it you don't see many battle for the cowl aus /fics which considering how funny battle for the cowl is and how much drama there is it's an untapped market
#ask#anon#is it bc bruce cant be involved#like i know bruce isnt involved in attack on titan tower#but if youve read an attack on titan tower fic#you know that doesn't matter#he will show up#probably bc hes wondering where jason disappeared to in the middle of their fight
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Red Hood has absolutely publicly robbed Bruce Wayne and nothing can change my mind.
#bruce wayne#batman#jason todd#red hood#batfam#dc comics#dc#my post#“you could just ask for an allowance.” “fuck no.”#i like to think he didn't use a gun because he knows Bruce has trauma about being robbed at gun point#but like if he DID wow the angst#he would realize he fucked up and it would force them to talk about their feelings and shit#a joke on dad turns really bad but leaves them closer or something#or the funny version of this prompt where jason robs Bruce every time he needs cash
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All the bats have their own ways of addressing other people.
Dick uses “kid, kiddo, buddy, friend”
Jason is similar, using “hey, kid, fucker”
Tim uses “you, *insert guys name or meme referring to guy*”
Stephanie uses “honey, friend, bud, *insert funny nickname*”
Damian uses “you,*insert what he considers whoever he’s talking to’s biggest flaw*
But Batman?
Batman uses “Love, princess, darling”
That’s how all the thirst traps started.
#don’t ask him why he uses it#his Bruce wayne persona sometimes is a little too good#he’s used to calling people these at galas#gotta keep up that playboy appearance somehow#but what he doesn’t account for is#that it was such a habit that it’s the first thing he can say#to prove he’s not a threat#however it backfired#now they don’t perceive him as a threat#they perceive him as something… worse#honestly imagine hearing a low gravelly voice call you that#in a high tense situation where he’s saving you#TELL ME that 9 times out of 10 you wounds swoon#you can’t#dick grayson#nightwing#batman#red hood#jason todd#tim drake#bruce wayne#batfam#damian wayne#batfamily comedy#batfam headcanon a#Brucie wayne#Bruce Wayne playboy#robin#Stephanie brown#spoiler
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As cute as that post is, the hc i live behind is that Bruce has been surrounded by rich people all his life and is so aware of the kind of nasty shit they do that hes like hyperaware of protecting his kids in the Right way, and that means being extremely blunt and nonchalant about sexual things they may or may not do. Hes the dad thats constantly reminding them to use condoms or buy this kind of lube for these kinds of toys and the kids HATE ITTTTT theyre like PLEASE OLD MAN. ENOUGH. I GET IT !!!!
Hes like got a million answers for everything bc HE did so much shit in his lifetime that hes a walking encyclopedia but they would literally Die before coming up to him for any sex related questions. Which is really unfortunate (for them) bc at least TWO of his children are dating aliens and old enough to Do Things and its impossible to just google [insert alien race] anatomy; the only people who have that information are the aliens in question and BRUCE bc hes the only fucker that keeps track of this shit !!! Going to Bruce for anything is soooo dire bc the reminder that he FUCKS is like too much for them to bear, esp when hes out patrolling w Selina or Clark and hes like smiling and bickering w them its like NOOOO THATS RIGHT NOT THEM TOO ‘oh my fucking goddd not uncle clark’ <- jason about to literally explode from how red his fucking face is
#chattin#suggestive#bruce#DONT know where im going w this#just that i hc bruce as someone who had very limited avenues for pleasure while doing his whole batman schtick#and so he indulged in very extreme ways and had to trial and error his way into finding something that worked for him#so kink circles have always been his best friend#and like he KNOWWWWWWWS this life is so fucking tough and stressful and theres like no way u get a bunch of teens and young adults#and people in general in the same place constantly without having them fool around its like the same shit thay happens in the olympics LOL#so hes like well its GOING to happen and i know this bc alfred tried to stop Me and that was. unsuccessful 🧍♂️#so hes just loops back into being supportive so that they dont compromise themselves#and its the WORSTTTT for his boys bc bruce just fucking Knows when things are happening#and when theyre behaving like bruce in his early years#or gravitating to the same circles (jason) that he used to frequent#and its SO funny bc bruce is just so deadpan and dry about everything INCLUDING this#hes just an awkward dad making sure his kids are okay 🥺 he did the atupid experimental shit so they dont have to !!!!!#but what that also means is that hes in ur business way more than you want him to be#yes i am . in relations w [insert alien teammate]#no i do not need to read up on the . anatomical books you found of them in your travels.#(tim specifically) NO you do not need to ask CLARK for- WHY WOULD U ASK HIMMMM BEFORE READING THE BOOKS- DONT ANSWER THAT
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Something about deeply suicidal character Jason Todd who usually tries going out fighting or in the self sacrificing hero way + Jason's magic swords tied to his soul where he has to cut himself with them to power them up
#im still gonna use the blades w/o much focus on this bc i like magic jason#but man the route of complete self destruction you COULD go in...#story where jason is going on a magical adventure to destroy some evil with the blades but#hes also clearly just feeling his absolute worst and youre not sure hes gonna survive the run#just go in as a self destructive and self sacrificing hero who is willing to save everyone but themselves#just go all in#nothing but fighting to make sure you die fighting#jason todd#suicide mention#ask to tag#man this does sound like itd make for a great story#im still not that deep in the outlaws comics but i believe ive seen enough of the blades to be basically confident
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Can anyone tell me where this is from?? pls pls
#I’ve been searching FOR OVER AN HOUR#I searched through Pinterest tumblr and google and I’m stumped#I’m pretty sure I haven’t seen it before so I need to go through the comic because how dare I not go through a Jason comic#Suddenly a Jason panel appears and I must know where it’s from#so yeah pls help thank you#I’m going to be annoyed if it’s from an old comic that I just don’t remember#Also#Jason looks so tiny here#Like he’s just a child in a red hood costume#The guy asking to watch tv with red hood lmao#real tbh#jason todd#red hood#batfamily#dc#batfam#dc comics#comic panels
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The Batman fandom infantilizing a near 30 years old white man taking in a child, saying he was a brother more than a father as if he wasn't a full grown adult taking in a child he could have birthed, but parentifying a brown young adult taking in his brother pre-teen for less than a year, saying he was a father more than a brother (only a year is barely enough but ok), or saying he was more a father to his other brothers than Bruce, when he met them when he was 18 and 21 is making me uncomfortable, ngl.
Like, Bruce is a "kid" when he became Dick's guardian when he canonically was over 25 (he started being Batman at 25), and a brother to him when he raised him for 10 years (and Dick probably has not many memories from before Bruce now), but Dick is a "father" to Damian he only had as his charge for less than a year, half of which they were fighting each others??? Make it make sense???
#dc comics#batman#nightwing#bruce wayne#dick grayson#my ramblings#Bruce was 25 when he became Batman so at least 26 when he got 8 years old Dick#He was old enough to be a father and not a child stop calling him a kid he was closer to 30 than 20#But Dick is younger and Damian is like 10-11 and only in his care for a year#but that's more a father/son relationship than Dick's yearly years with Bruce? pls#stop parentifying Dick all the time and making him raise his siblings when he is a young adult who did so many immature thing#let him be his age and grow up normally#something something the stereotypes are showing guys#there are so many fics on AO3 with people writing Dick as Jason father figure#HE WAS 18 AND IN FULL TEENAGER ANGST MODE#I do not care that comics say that Dick and Damian had a father/son bond it doesn’t make sense#However there are a ton of comics of Dick being like “You are my dad! You're my dad! boogie woogie woogie” to Bruce#also the letter he wrote to Bruce in Nightwing First Year where he is like “I'm not ready to see you rn because I'm mad at you#but also you're the best father I ever could ask for.“ even mad and lost he still viewed Bruce as his dad whatever the man said
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for the ask game, an AU where (somehow…) jason and tim (begrudgingly) team up in the search for a hero/battle for the cowl era (either when jason says tim should work with him on the gang stuff or when batman jason asks tim to be his robin) :]
for the ask game!
god, Search For A Hero my beloved. for the Search For A Hero version of their team-up, I think I'd write it something like this
I think the biggest reason Tim says no when Jason asks him is Jason asks Tim too early in the arc. as the storyline develops, Tim gets more and more desperate to best Ulysses, which is what pushes him to make the mistake that gets Ulysses' siblings killed. he's in a tight spot and he misjudges the situation. (i think the guilt he carries from that moment is one of the biggest inciting incidents for becoming Red Robin) so, i'd introduce Jason to the plot just a little later. just as Tim is on the edge of desperation. Tim isn't entirely adverse to working with villains if he thinks he can stay on top of them. so instead of sending Jason to prison, i think if Jason came to Tim at the right time, Tim would begrudging accept Jason's help
part of Tim's plan would be leveraging Jason's power with the mafia/mob scene in Gotham. they'd agree that topping the gangs would just cause a power vacuum (i'm pretty sure that's actually addressed in SFAH but i could be misremembering) so it's more about a balancing act, which is where Jason thrives. Tim is right on the cusp of being willing to do more morally questionable things, so it'd be a fun internal war for him to second-guess himself at every turn.
there would be such a delightful lack of trust in their partnerships. TIm has *zero* reason to trust Jason, and while Jason likes Tim enough, i don't think he's naive enough to put any trust in Tim. so there'd be moments where they don't fill each other in on aspects of the plan. Jason kills people behind Tim's back, Tim keys in his cop friend behind Jason's back. it builds the tension between them with a lot of hot arguments that get more and more charged.
the jealousy. there would just have to be a scene where Jason gets wildly jealous over Ulysses' complex over Tim. Ulysses tries so hard to pit himself as like, Tim's biggest adversary, his opposite. and Jason would *despise* that. sure, Jason is working with Tim, but part of the fun is that they're still enemies as they do it. i think it'd be sort of fun to have the moment where Ulysses blows Tim up be something Jason witnesses and he raises unholy hell about. because if anyone is going to kill Tim Drake, it's going to be him. and that angry possessiveness is what makes the romantic/sexual tension something neither of them can ignore anymore.
Tim deciding to put on the Red Robin suit to fight Ulysses would be where Jason just. goes full tilt possessive "he's mine i marked him that's my suit. see. mine. i said so." and Tim would push back but. what ground does he have to stand on bc he could've picked any suit with any cowl to protect his head after the blast, but he did choose Jason's. it was his own open invitation to Jason in a way. and well. they fuck nasty about it. and then Damian becomes Robin, so why not Tim keep the suit and just maybe, keep Jason in his back pocket.
and!! for the Battle for the Cowl version. man on one hand i love "Tim accepts Jason's offer to be his Robin" fics but i feel they lack a bite to them, so this is personally how i would try to pull it off, while being relatively in character.
so the biggest thing for me is, TIm agrees to be Jason's Robin not because he trusts or likes Jason, but for the same reasons he became Robin in the first place: to keep Batman stable. being Jason's Robin isn't about wanting to work with Jason, it would be Tim knowing there's no world Jason is ever going to stop and seeing Jason slowly tip over the edge of madness and well. if Tim was self-sacrificial enough to do it for Bruce and attempt to do it for Jean-Paul, he can do it for Jason.
him agreeing would i think startle Jason. like, Jason's offer was never particularly serious because he's at the point he knows Tim wants nothing to do with him. so when Tim says yes it sort of. snaps Jason out of the rage BftC puts him in. he's so startled but enticed by the thought, he willingly agrees to stipulations Tim sets, like no murder. like even if just to see where this goes, Jason jumps on the chance.
i'd really want to keep Dick and Damian as Batman and Robin, and the weird divide that would exist with Dick/Damian and Jason/Tim both running around as Batman/Robin and how off kilter that puts Gotham. like Gotham is so baffled by it, it actually makes criminals easier to handle. because they have no clue if they're getting the Batman who needs Robin to keep him in line, or the Robin who needs Batman to keep him in line. people know there's two Batmans, two Robins and no one knows quite what to do with that information. who's the "real" Batman? who's the "real" Robin? and on the personal level, the divide between Dick and Tim would be unmistakable. Dick would know what Tim's doing and try to convince him Jason is a lost cause bc well, Dick at this point *really* believes Jason is a lost fucking cause. So Dick's genuine care and concern for Tim just drives a further wedge between them.
i think there'd need to be a scene where Tim flat out asks if Jason even *wants* to be Batman. in a sort of attempt to slowly ween Jason off of being Batman, but also because i don't think Jason ever really wants to be Batman, he just wants Batman to be what his vision of justice is. and it'd be the first real heart to heart they have, discussing the legacy of the Robin and Batman mantles and how it's affected them. it'd be heated, but it'd be their first real conversation as just. Jason and Tim.
to me, i think the end goal of this AU would be Tim successfully "taming" Jason, and not in like a soft way, but in like a manipulative way, where even Jason knows that's what Tim is doing, but he just goes along with it because it's the first real human connection he's had in a while. also, i would work in Scarlet, Jason's sidekick in Batman & Robin (2009) as like. a pseudo daughter figure for them to help Jason find his humanity a bit. so it's not just Tim as Jason's rock, but also this misguided girl they'd both try to help. and well, then they ride into the sunset and all that, but still have a complicated, toxic dynamic they're both aware is unhealthy, but as balanced as it can be.
#ask game#necrotic festerings#jaytim#tim drake x jason todd#jason todd x tim drake#timjay#batcest#i love these two arcs so much#battle for the cowl *is* bad. that's why is fun fodder to try to see what you can get out of it.#and search for a hero is just. GOD it's a good fucking arc.#i think i'd be more likely to write the bftc version of these ideas but i'd write either if ppl rlly like the concepts tbh#trying to balance canon characterisation when bftc is your basis is just fun. it's like a lil challenge#jason and tim as batman and robin is such a fun thing to me.#bc you have to consider tim's motivations in it and how he views robin as a servitor of batman#also i just need more jaytim fics where they take in scarlet okay#i'd also accept duela dent#scarlet bby i miss you you were so cool as a robin parallel#truly the only thing that salvages jason in batman & robin (2009)
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